Protesting the Topeka Protesters: “leave our military families alone”

By Earl Glynn on July 10, 2011
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TOPEKA ─ Heart of America Minutemen leader Ed Hayes wanted to tell Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church “to leave our military families alone.”

Hayes said “it is absurd to picket the military heroes’ funerals and their families.  It’s deplorable.”

On Saturday about a dozen members of Heart of America Minutemen displayed American flags in a residential yard across the street from Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka.

The Phelps family and members of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka travel across the country protesting at military funerals and at other events and against groups with whom they disagree.

Meeting at Gage Park

About two weeks ago Hayes started organizing an event for Saturday.  Hayes planned to picket with his group on the sidewalks outside WBC.

A Franklin County motorcyclist displayed this sign on his trailer

Hayes asked everyone to meet at nearby Gage Park to review plans for a peaceful, orderly and legal event.

Hayes first met with Sergeant Jim Trimble to review legal issues discussed previously with Topeka Police.

A recent newspaper ad announced WBC services on Saturday from 10 AM till 2 PM. Event organizers learned of this ad from Topeka Police on Saturday morning

Trimble told Hayes about a recent newspaper ad that the church was having a “religious event” from 10 AM till 2 PM on Saturday.  No one remembers seeing such Saturday services in the past.

Trimble told Kansas Watchdog that a Topeka City Ordinance prohibited picketing during an announced church service, or within 30 minutes before or after.

Hayes was troubled by this new information since WBC recently posted a new event outside the church when a group arrived to protest.  Hayes was worried that WBC could get rid of protesters at any time by simply posting a new religious event outside the church.

With about 3 hours until any sidewalk protest could occur outside the church on Saturday, Hayes looked for another option.

Hayes’ contacts from Topeka suggested getting permission from the homeowners across from the WBC compound and standing in silence there while holding American flags.

Hayes checked with Sergent Trimble about such a meeting on private property.

Trimble told Kansas Watchdog that a Topeka city ordinance prohibits picketing of a residence but laws did not interfere with rights of citizens to meet on private property.

The main flag pole at WBC shows an upside down US flag with LGBT pride color stripes above an upside down US Flag.

US flags surrounding WBC are flown upside down as a sign of distress

Flying flags in private yards across from WBC

Hayes and his group received permission from two homeowners across from WBC to fly the flags in their yards.

One homeowner asked not to be identified but confirmed she had given the group permission.

One participant traveled over 300 miles from Oberlin, Kans. to attend the event.  Another traveled about 140 miles from Wichita.  Several from the Kansas City area were there from both sides of the state line.

Most declined to give their names in interviews out of fear of reprisals by WBC.

Since the group knew protests were prohibited by city ordinance at a private residence, participants avoided the word “protest” to describe what they were doing on private property across from WBC.

When asked why he was holding a flag, Mike Egan from Johnson County said “I’m here today because it’s a beautiful day in Shawnee County, Kansas.  It’s Fourth of July week.  It’s a great way to celebrate our heritage by flying the American Flag.”

Conflict between city ordinances, First Amendment

Minutes after the group started flying flags from the private yards, Topeka police officer Steve Roth from the special operations division stopped to discuss Topeka city ordinances about residential and church picketing.  Roth said the WBC compound was more of a residence than a church.

Roth proposed that the group move two blocks west to Gage Avenue to avoid issues with both city ordinances.

Hayes, a retired police captain, claimed he was not in violation of the residential picketing ordinance.  Hayes told Roth “We have a constitutional right to do this, and I don’t see how a city ordinance can surpass that.”

Hayes asked if Sergent Trimble could join the friendly debate and Roth granted that request.

See the discussion about the conflict between city ordinances and the First Amendment in this video:

After discussions and phone calls, Roth said he disagreed with Trimble’s decision but would honor it since Trimble had a higher rank.

The decision was those holding flags with the permission of the property owners could stay if they moved 15 feet back from the curb to private property, outside the public street easement.

Protest on WBC sidewalk

Egan said he did not see anyone leave the WBC compound at any time after noon, and no one left after the announced service ended at 2 PM.

WBC Along Sidewalk

Three protested with flags on the WBC sidewalk

After waiting 30 minutes to comply with the city ordinance about picketing churches a few of the original group held their American flags on the WBC sidewalk.

Egan said a group of six on motorcycles mostly from Leavenworth County briefly joined the protest about an hour later.

Future

How effective will Hayes approach be?  “If we knew the best way to accomplish this we would have done it, ” according to Hayes.  He had hoped for a higher turnout.

Hayes plans future similar events but offered no specifics at this time.


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3 Comments For This Post So Far

  1. cam
    8:42 pm on July 10th, 2011

    This is not a church, this is a hate group. Westboro Baptist Church says they hate the Gay-Community. But, they also hate African Americans, Dr. & Mrs. King, Canada, Sweden, the Fire Department of N.Y., victims of 911, other Christian churches, the pope, Judaism, America, our American troops and the list goes on and on.
    This group spreads its hate through picketing in our streets, provoking attacks, with abusive language and flag desecration, attempting to create a confrontation. This is not about protesting, freedom, or God. They are in it for the money and the press; this is a family law firm. They are not a “church.” It is a scam. They go after any thing that can get them in the news.
    The city of Topeka, the state of Kansas and the U.S. at large, its citizens and their churches, schools and events are all held hostage by this “hate group” and always at the tax payer’s expense.

  2. Greg Ward
    9:30 am on July 23rd, 2011

    Isn’t a funeral, “an announced church service”? So how is it that WBC does not violate the Topeka ordinance when they rally?

  3. Steven Clark
    2:08 am on September 17th, 2011

    Join the journey for justic team it’s on face. WBC does NOT like this group. Is ther not a law about flaying our flag upsidedown?

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